The medical marijuana controversy is not unique to Havre and a rally of MM supporters was held this weekend in the Great Falls Gibson Park. The end of the 90 day moratorium is fast approaching for the Great Falls City Commission. We wonder why if this is a controversial problem everywhere in Montana the problem isn’t met with some state-wide legislation in our upcoming legislative session instead of each city and county wasting tax dollars, time, and effort just spinning their wheels?
I would feel better if those who need this would get their medicine at the pharmacy with a prescription like all other medications not out of someones car or home. What's next we all grow poppies and make opium it's organtic it must be good?
ReplyDeleteI agree with the burner. Medical marijuana should be grown in State licensed facilities, delivered directly to the pharmacy and picked up just like Oxycontin, Tylenol 3, Darvocet or any other prescription. Don't just "say no" and ban it, regulate it. If I was in need of long term pain relief, I'd rather use something natural than a chemical created in a laboratory.
ReplyDeleteMM is needed for pain about as much as a cold brewski after a tough day, we all know how good that feels.
ReplyDeletethe trouble is, the brewski is legal, the joint is not.
individual taste and flavor is the the american way, too bad libertarians the world over don't support legalization. Brewskis legal and dope not is just another example of an overly intrusive governemt.
Again, pharmacies are federally controlled so that is not an option.
ReplyDeleteI'm all in favor of taxing it but am not in favor of State grow facilities.
Sidney said: MM is needed for pain about as much as a cold brewski after a tough day, we all know how good that feels.
ReplyDeletethe trouble is, the brewski is legal, the joint is not.
Incorrect on both counts. First, MM is indeed needed for a variety of ailments. Beer is not needed nor medicinally proven to provide relief. Secondly, it is legal if you meet the qualifications.
Surely the ATF has jurisdiction on drugs and alcahol in any state this problem with MM is not just in montana it is time for the fed's to step in and make some rules that all can live by.I would say by you're remarks you favor MM we have laws for drunk driving and being drunk in public what do we do with this how do the cops test a person to see just how impaired thay may be when using this. I think you are wrong about what can be behind the counter at the pharmacy because I've seen vitamins dispenced from one. I would like to understand how you know what the MM has been laced with or what quality of MM you are getting? Like all druggs you build up a tolerance for MM and it no longer works than what start growing poppies and try making opium it's also organtic don't pannic.If you think that MM is the answer for all the folks using it then how can you say that any drugg or mind altering substance such as booze should be regulated lets just give it to every one who wants it. I do think there are people who may need MM for some things but I also think that a lot of folks have found a way to have it just for kicks.
ReplyDeletefuelburner - ATF has nothing to do with it. Pharmacies are under the auspices of the FDA. As long as marijuana is illegal federally there will be no stepping in by the Feds.
ReplyDeleteAs to testing for use while driving etc I say absolutely. There are currently tests available to determine THC levels in the blood/system. I don't know enough about the particulars to make a statement on its effectiveness but other states are implementing tests as we speak.
As to the aspirin behind the counter I don't understand your point. Further, your continued reference to opium is simply a flawed comparison as no one is attempting to legislate its use for medical, or other, reasons.
As to your attempted comparison to booze, mind altering drugs etc., that too is a flawed comparison as booze and the like have no record of substantiated medicinal use as MM does.
Our there problems with the law as currently written? You bet. However, since MM is legal and is not going to go away, let's deal with strengthening and clarifying the law without throwing out silly comparisons of what "could" happen and deal with what is happening.
Just my 2 cents worth, your mileage may vary.
I agree with surely,it should be regulated,but, kept out of pharmacies, pharmacies and insurance companies are going to be the downfall of america.Its pretty bad when people have to go without their meds because pharmaceutical companys need their 1000% mark up(profit)
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think the markup is on an ounce of Medical Marijuana? These guys are selling the stuff for $250 to $300 an ounce. How much tax do you think they pay? One of the users said at one of the meetings I attended that he used about an ounce per week. How do they afford that? $250 per week X52 weeks is $13,000 X 20 patients is $260,000 per year. They are one of those rich guys President Obama is always talking about but I doubt they pay much tax.
ReplyDeleteAlot of the patients grow their own so realistically with electricity,water and dirt it probably costs about $30.00 a month,per 5 ounces.
ReplyDeleteMost growers are using synthetic fertilizers and spraying plants for insects, with pesticide. News flash people that makes it not organic. I think its a hoot that they are saying don't panic its organic, they have no flipping idea what that grower is using to grow his plants. Smoking weed is pretty unhealthy for your lungs, but they are promoting it as organic. Makes me so warm and fuzzy, our nation is sooooooooo ignorant.
ReplyDeleteI don't have a problem with it, as long as its actually used for some valid medical reason. I wonder what Mrs. Tretheway's son's reason is for getting arrested for pot possession back on new years day was. Maybe living with her is cause enough.
ReplyDeleteWhatever may be the tax payers can fund another rehab after thousands of people get addicted to pot and ruin their lives and then want off the medicine. Who am I to say I'll just shut up and pay my taxes!!! Surely ever wonder why poeple who drink do it, it's because they too have problems in their lives some have pain some can't sleep some have emotional problems the booze helps mask their problem for a short time but when you come down to it the problem is still their just masked. As for my flawed coparison to opium my point was that if MM can be legalized what other drugs will we attempt to legalize? Just because anyone can grow or make a drug at home do you think we should and should we be able to sell them with out any standards of quality or drug safety.If you have ever listened to any history of the US we had a huge problem with marijuana and opium in the early days. Local history under the streets there is an opium den. The laws against these drugs came from somewhere, why? I think to deal with MM being legal the cost to all of us not using is going to be huge. We should have some regulation some agency to check on providers and some way to tax income law inforcement will have to have something to test impaired drivers what a mess. I've seen a lot of young people protesting in favor of MM why. I'm thankfull that my employer dose random tests and I do not have to work with someone impaired form any drug I hope it stays that way. MM is legal if you have a card but random tests just show if you have used it but not when you used it.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, Nancy, but I think they are gullible, too.
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ReplyDeletefuelburner said: "after thousands of people get addicted to pot"
ReplyDeleteMarijuana, unlike booze, pills and the like is NOT physically addictive. Also unlike those products, no one has EVER died of an Marijuana overdose.
Fuelburner said:"If you have ever listened to any history of the US we had a huge problem with marijuana and opium"
If you had ever studied history you would be familiar with a fellow by the name of Harry Anslinger who almost single-handedly - through propoganda and outright lies - created the bogus marijuana laws.
Perhaps if you "studied" history instead of "listening" to it you would be aware of the truth of how marijuana came to be issue it is. It's pretty hard to take you seriously when you attempt to conflate opium with marijuana on a historical level.
You are to smart for me surely I surender smoke you're weed and when you're a burn out or you're kids or grand kids are burned out thank yourself.
ReplyDeleteIts pretty hard to take him at all he throws out rhetoric like anslinger did,maybe the fuel burner should look up mayor La Guardia's (the same La Guardia they named the airport after)commissioned reports.That undermind Anslingers crap.
ReplyDeletehere look at this http://www.marijuana-addiction.net/
ReplyDeleteyou can find facts on anything in any subject for or against anything
fuelburner said: "You are to smart for me surely I surender smoke you're weed and when you're a burn out or you're kids or grand kids are burned out thank yourself."
ReplyDeleteWhile you're studying up on stuff perhaps you could check in to "ad hominem" as well.
In the meantime, I note that nothing I said is countered by you as false or incorrect in any way.
Sorry to confuse you with facts. LOL
O.K., now you're getting even more ridiculous. You use a link to a RECOVERY CENTER as proof of addiciton?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the chuckle.
i cant believe some people. leave the lazy harmless stoners alone!!
ReplyDeleteMarijuana is harmless!! Lets complain about aspirin since it kills over 7000 people a year. My little 14 year old cousin bought that nasty stuff right at the store the other day. What about alcohol that kills hundreds of thousands. Every year right here in havre people die from alcohol and perscription overdoses. Lets set up a councel to deal with these problems!
ReplyDeleteHavre has been a pretty big stoner town the 15 yrs ive lived here. This law dosent really change anything.. except maybe keeping othewize decent citizens out of prision, saving money.. thats good right?
ReplyDeleteYour right on that axslinger! I keep hearing people about town and the folks on here say they would like the state to run facilities. Thats STUPID! WE dont need more taxes people. How do you think that would get paid for? Yup taxes! der. How about we tax the dispensaries and the growers. A yearly tax. Make them pay for each patient that they have. Say 2500 a year if they have more than 50 patients and a thousand for all others. Something like that. Lets make money and stop spending money trying to pay people who dont know anything about it to make decisions on regulation. Lets fix this crappy town up with these peoples money.
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