Saturday, July 28, 2012

Separation of Church and State Myth Busted (again)

Apparently all the hoopla we hear about the “separation of church and state” being spelled out in our constitution since the beginning of time is not true.    Who would have dreamed that liberals and the ACLU would have lied to us?  If anyone is interested you can buy a DVD of the whole 2-hour Capital tour at Wall Builders dot com for 15 bucks. 


  1. We have been told this lie so long that everyone believes it is a violation of the constitution when in reality our country was founded on a belief in God. Tell where in the constitution you find anything about the separation of church and state

  2. Barton again? Zealotry more than fact shapes his "work," which has been so thoroughly, repeatedly, and authoritatively debunked by so many who have demonstrated it to be riddled with slipshod research, shoddy analysis, and downright dishonestly that I can but wonder how anyone can call him an "authority" on this subject without turning red from embarrassment. Perhaps the handiest debunking is Chris Rodda's book, Liars for Jesus: The Religious Right's Alternate Version of American History (2006) (available free on line, where she conveniently collects and directly refutes his many mistakes and lies, all with documentation and references so complete one can readily assess the facts for one's self without the need to take either Barton's or Rodda's word for it.

    His opening bit in the video, for instance, is a lie. Contrary to Barton's assertions, Congress did not order any Bibles imported or printed. Rather, at a time when the general reputation of local printers was such that they could hardly compete against British printers, Congress simply passed a resolution recommending a Philadelphia printer's recent edition of the Bible based on its chaplain's report of the satisfactory "care and accuracy" of his work and authorizing him to publish that recommendation. Congress did not "print the Bible" as Barton repeatedly claims in his speeches. See C. Rodda, Liars for Jesus, Chapter One, Congress and the Bible.

    The irony is that, by knowingly, repeatedly resorting to lies, this would-be champion of a religious right version of history reveals his fears that the real facts fall short of making his case. His own lying is perhaps the best evidence that his overall thesis is wrong.

  3. I always find Barton thought provoking. I would like to know the truth but your link lacks credibility David. She comes off like a witch hunter to me.

  4. You can’t be serious David. When you read history it is clear that most people came to America for religious freedom.

    However, I will keep an open mind and read the rest of the stuff at the link you provided before I make judgement and I think I will spend the $15 to watch the DVD from Barton also and then come back and give you an informed opinion

  5. When you read history it is clear that most people came to America for religious freedom.


    Most people came here, like they still do today, to make a living.

    One should also not forget that many people came to America in shackles as property.